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The Genesis Project
09-26-2017, 03:04 PM
Post: #101
RE: The Genesis Project
Well summarized Ivy Smile
Hereafter my updated ongoing tests. As i dont have any generation 1 cats, I have several living cats with prooven FLA 4 or DIA 5 furs disponible to test versus DO 1, DIA 1 and CO 1. If anyone has those cats and wants to use my hiders, send me a IM inworld.
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10-03-2017, 06:30 AM
Post: #102
RE: The Genesis Project
Smokey 5 is recessive to Coco 2.

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Straightforward proof: I mated a Smokey 5 with a Coco 2 and they produced a Coco 2 cat (Jimena). When mated with a recessive-furred aby creme (Nectar), the aby creme pulled the hidden Smokey 5 fur.
This is only a small step on the charts, but one step forward.

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10-26-2017, 08:29 PM (This post was last modified: 10-26-2017 09:28 PM by Aramis Gontineac.)
Post: #103
DIA 4 > SMO 5
The mother, Vienna 05-02-05, shows CO 5, wich is known dominant to DIA 4. She hides SMO 5 as prooven in the second picture hereafter.
The Dad shows DIA 4 and passed it to Vienna 05-02-05-06, which shows it. It can only hide SMO 5 passed from its mother.
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Consequently ranking chart now looks like that :

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BANDIT 2 > BANDIT 1 and possibly MOCA 1
Meagan 07-11 shows Bandit 2, passed from mother Megan 07 (which hides Ginger 1). Meagan 07-11 hides either Bandit 1 or Moca 1 from its dad Analisa 03. Second picture prooves Analisa 03 hiden fur is Bandit 1.

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updated ranking chart looks now like this :

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10-27-2017, 08:37 AM (This post was last modified: 10-27-2017 08:46 AM by LibGwen Resident.)
Post: #104
RE: DIA 4 > SMO 5
From Aramis post #103:

Summary of 4Dia > 5Sm: Picture 2 proves the 5Co mother (Vienna 05-02-05) from picture 1 hides 5Sm, which means her kitten showing 4Dia (Vienna 05-02-05-06) must hide either her 5Co or 5Sm. 5Co is known dominant to 4Dia, so the kitten must hide 5Sm. Therefore 4Dia is dominant to 5Sm.

Summary of 2Ban > 1Ban: Picture 4 proves in more than one way that Analisa 03 hides 1Ban, but the simplest is his offspring Meagan 07-02-06's shown 1Ban cannot have come from her mother, who shows 1Gin, because 1Gin is known to be recessive to 1Ban, so can't hide it. This allows us to draw conclusions from picture 3: Analisa 03's offspring Meagan 07-11 cannot have inherited 2Ban from him, so it must have come from the mother Meagan 07. Meagan 07-11 must hide one of Analisa 03's furs. Therefore we know 2Ban hides 1Ban at least, maybe even 1Moc.
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11-01-2017, 05:40 PM
Post: #105
RE: The Genesis Project
It's time for an updated Genesis chart. This one is messy in terms of colors, but with Aramis' latest proofs, we can do a new thing... we can fork the 4s and the 5s.

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As I said, the colors are messy... these will go up or down by a peg or so until we get them placed.

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11-02-2017, 02:42 AM
Post: #106
RE: The Genesis Project
Quick update on the only test I have running the Patch 1 v Bandit 2.

Of the latest pair I opened the Patch passed Aby BS and the Bandit 2 has declined to reveal hidden yet.
I still have 4 boxes from the original pair of test kitties, 3 Bandit 2's and a Patch 1.

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11-03-2017, 10:58 PM
Post: #107
DOM 2 > SMO 5
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Vienna 05-02-05-07 shows its dad fur, DOM 2. So he can only hide either the shown or the hidden fur of his mother, Vienna 05-02-05.
Hereafter, the proof that she hides SMO 5 (was my latest proof on this forum).
So, Domino 2 is dominant at least to Smokey 5 and potentially to Coco 5.

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Ranking chart looks now like this :

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11-13-2017, 12:03 PM
Post: #108
RE: The Genesis Project
Finally we have a result on Genesis - Bandit II.
It dominant to Genesis - Patch thereby placing all the new Gen II's above the I's.

Owain is a Bandit II his parents are a Patch and a Bandit II
He bred with Aurkena a Russian Black and their baby was a Patch.
Since Russian - Black is recessive to both Owains hidden is Genesis - Patch.

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11-14-2017, 11:17 AM
Post: #109
RE: The Genesis Project
I'm so glad to see that one slip into place. Thank you for sticking with it Arwen.

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11-18-2017, 10:05 AM
Post: #110
RE: The Genesis Project
Diamond 5 > Diamond 1
This is not necessarily the result I expected, but it's a good one as it squeezes the chart upwards a bit.

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It's a straightforward proof. I mated Diamond 1 with a Diamond 5 showing cat (Chelsie). They produced a Diamond 5 showing offspring (Allegra). When Allegra was run with a recessive-furred bengal charcoal (Renzus), it pulls the hidden Diamond 1 fur on the kitten.

This means that the final placement of the bottom 3 unplaced Genesis furs, Smokey 5, Flame 4 and Diamond 5, all rest on Domino 1, as we know that they are all recessive to Domino 2.

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This updated chart also shows Arwen's placement of Bandit 2. Phantom Trommier has also gotten 2 proofs which are already reflected in the chart: Flame 2 > Smokey 5 and Diamond 2 > Smokey 5.

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